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		<title>By: srexr</title>
		<link>http://www.viewfromablue.com/2012/12/27/sunderland-1-0-man-city-my-thoughts/#comment-418873</link>
		<dc:creator>srexr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of my post contains observations, which are not the same as opinions.

How many players has Mancini fallen out with at some time or other? 7/8 where he has become embroiled in public arguments. Very professional.

He did ostracise Kolo and told him he didn;t have a future at the club when he though he could get 3mil and a one way ticket to Turkey. He is now doing the same with Lescott.

Nastasic is playing too many games - which is an opinion but I have seen many great talents burn out young through being overplayed at an early age. SAF, Wenger and many great managers take care of their youngsters and limit their outings so that they can develop properly. Mancini is not one of those managers based upon his actions.

Lescott could do a good job for us - that is an opinion. However I would imagine most pros including Kompany, who would partner him, would agree.

He does use the same players - check the stats. 

That he is a fool who does not understand human nature is an opinion based upon his actions - the public castigation of players, the lack of communication with players that they have reported, the way he ignores them, the fact the squad knows they could be next to get the cold shoulder if Mancini suddenly decides their face doesn;t fit. Management detract from any team spirit in my opinion. 

As for the players, they are speaking out more about the way we play. Last season they wouldn;t have dared. So far I&#039;ve heard from Hart, Richards, Clichy, and this week Yaya. 

Personally I haven&#039;t heard much of anything from players about Mancini, praise or otherwise, so I don&#039;t take that as evidence of anything quite frankly.

And if my attack seems so bad, its borne from a continued frustration of watching a manager who has consistently relied on quality players getting results rather than anything much he contributes. Add the fact that he inherited many of his best players - Hart, Richards, Zabby, Kompany, Lescott, Barry, and the departed de Jong, and numerically even his signings have been more miss or mediocre than hit (and anyone can sign a successful mega star without much credit - another opinion) - and he has a supporting cast of minions that makes the Ben Hur cast seem reasonable! Those personnel expenses went up considerably in the last finacials as pointed out by Forbes magazine.

And I&#039;m not too keen on the job the defensive coach and medical teams he decided to change close season are doing quite frankly - the results don&#039;t show them as being an improvement - though he does have more italian friends around.

Needless to say I&#039;ll be glad when he&#039;s gone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of my post contains observations, which are not the same as opinions.</p>
<p>How many players has Mancini fallen out with at some time or other? 7/8 where he has become embroiled in public arguments. Very professional.</p>
<p>He did ostracise Kolo and told him he didn;t have a future at the club when he though he could get 3mil and a one way ticket to Turkey. He is now doing the same with Lescott.</p>
<p>Nastasic is playing too many games &#8211; which is an opinion but I have seen many great talents burn out young through being overplayed at an early age. SAF, Wenger and many great managers take care of their youngsters and limit their outings so that they can develop properly. Mancini is not one of those managers based upon his actions.</p>
<p>Lescott could do a good job for us &#8211; that is an opinion. However I would imagine most pros including Kompany, who would partner him, would agree.</p>
<p>He does use the same players &#8211; check the stats. </p>
<p>That he is a fool who does not understand human nature is an opinion based upon his actions &#8211; the public castigation of players, the lack of communication with players that they have reported, the way he ignores them, the fact the squad knows they could be next to get the cold shoulder if Mancini suddenly decides their face doesn;t fit. Management detract from any team spirit in my opinion. </p>
<p>As for the players, they are speaking out more about the way we play. Last season they wouldn;t have dared. So far I&#8217;ve heard from Hart, Richards, Clichy, and this week Yaya. </p>
<p>Personally I haven&#8217;t heard much of anything from players about Mancini, praise or otherwise, so I don&#8217;t take that as evidence of anything quite frankly.</p>
<p>And if my attack seems so bad, its borne from a continued frustration of watching a manager who has consistently relied on quality players getting results rather than anything much he contributes. Add the fact that he inherited many of his best players &#8211; Hart, Richards, Zabby, Kompany, Lescott, Barry, and the departed de Jong, and numerically even his signings have been more miss or mediocre than hit (and anyone can sign a successful mega star without much credit &#8211; another opinion) &#8211; and he has a supporting cast of minions that makes the Ben Hur cast seem reasonable! Those personnel expenses went up considerably in the last finacials as pointed out by Forbes magazine.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m not too keen on the job the defensive coach and medical teams he decided to change close season are doing quite frankly &#8211; the results don&#8217;t show them as being an improvement &#8211; though he does have more italian friends around.</p>
<p>Needless to say I&#8217;ll be glad when he&#8217;s gone.</p>
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		<title>By: blue bullet</title>
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		<dc:creator>blue bullet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 01:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Srexr, to like or dislike Mancini is down to the individual, but the opinions you have are in such detail that his wife wouldnt even be able to comment. I very much doubt you know him well enough to be able to make some of the judgements you have. In contrast to your almost vitriolic attack on Mancini, I would go as far to say that ive heard players both past and present have generally more positive things to say than negative</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Srexr, to like or dislike Mancini is down to the individual, but the opinions you have are in such detail that his wife wouldnt even be able to comment. I very much doubt you know him well enough to be able to make some of the judgements you have. In contrast to your almost vitriolic attack on Mancini, I would go as far to say that ive heard players both past and present have generally more positive things to say than negative</p>
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		<title>By: Siamack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Siamack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 22:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In professional soccer managers are hired/sacked based on results [though there are always few exceptions to any rule to varying extend], so far in 2 and half years of his reign, he has delivered an FA cup, premier league title and a community shield which I assume any City fan would take the same result for the next two year, if they were to be offered the same now [I know I would]. I am not a die hard fan of Bobby but for club&#039;s stability sake, unless he really screws up [which is way more than a few bad results], I do not think any City fan should undermine him. At least, That is my opinion.

Sometimes ostracizing players is the only way to make them move though it would fail if a players are paid more than what they deserve more often than not. Wayne Bridge and Santa Cruz are living money sucking examples. I am sure Lescott and Kolo fall in the same category when it comes to money and their skill set [though way better than Bridge or Cruz]. Anyways, as it was and still is the hall mark of Mark Hughes to over-pay for players [Harry Redknapp is already blowing up his top over this in QPR].</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In professional soccer managers are hired/sacked based on results [though there are always few exceptions to any rule to varying extend], so far in 2 and half years of his reign, he has delivered an FA cup, premier league title and a community shield which I assume any City fan would take the same result for the next two year, if they were to be offered the same now [I know I would]. I am not a die hard fan of Bobby but for club&#8217;s stability sake, unless he really screws up [which is way more than a few bad results], I do not think any City fan should undermine him. At least, That is my opinion.</p>
<p>Sometimes ostracizing players is the only way to make them move though it would fail if a players are paid more than what they deserve more often than not. Wayne Bridge and Santa Cruz are living money sucking examples. I am sure Lescott and Kolo fall in the same category when it comes to money and their skill set [though way better than Bridge or Cruz]. Anyways, as it was and still is the hall mark of Mark Hughes to over-pay for players [Harry Redknapp is already blowing up his top over this in QPR].</p>
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		<title>By: srexr</title>
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		<dc:creator>srexr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 21:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you miss my point. Mancini has little or no class and certainly no man-management skills. If Mancini wants to move them on thats one thing. To ostracize them so that they feel they have to move on is a cheap shot. Kolo is now back in favour because he is needed and there&#039;s no takers for him. Lescott, who is more than able to do a great job for us, is being marginlised so that he feels he has to move out to play on any kind of regular basis. Nastasic has done well, but overplaying a 19 year old is just asking for him to get burnt out and ruin his career just like so many youngsters in the game. All the players are just commodities to Mancini, to be used, abused and cast aside if they can&#039;t do the job anymore. He&#039;s a fool who doesn&#039;t understand or care to understand human nature and as such will never get the best out of any players who work for him and his autocratic manner. After many players have put in a hard shift for him and run there socks off he almost universally ignores them even as they pass him and look for a &#039;well done&#039; or pat on the back - though he does have the odd favourite he will acknowledge. I think as a leader he is pretty worthless and the players are fed up of him and his methods. And he certainly hasn;t got the skills or knowledge to inspire them to do their utmost for him and the team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you miss my point. Mancini has little or no class and certainly no man-management skills. If Mancini wants to move them on thats one thing. To ostracize them so that they feel they have to move on is a cheap shot. Kolo is now back in favour because he is needed and there&#8217;s no takers for him. Lescott, who is more than able to do a great job for us, is being marginlised so that he feels he has to move out to play on any kind of regular basis. Nastasic has done well, but overplaying a 19 year old is just asking for him to get burnt out and ruin his career just like so many youngsters in the game. All the players are just commodities to Mancini, to be used, abused and cast aside if they can&#8217;t do the job anymore. He&#8217;s a fool who doesn&#8217;t understand or care to understand human nature and as such will never get the best out of any players who work for him and his autocratic manner. After many players have put in a hard shift for him and run there socks off he almost universally ignores them even as they pass him and look for a &#8216;well done&#8217; or pat on the back &#8211; though he does have the odd favourite he will acknowledge. I think as a leader he is pretty worthless and the players are fed up of him and his methods. And he certainly hasn;t got the skills or knowledge to inspire them to do their utmost for him and the team.</p>
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		<title>By: Siamack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Siamack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 19:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lescott and Kolo Toure are in their 30s and are on wages that are too high for their skill level [this is on top of the incredible transfer fees we paid to sign them which is understandable at the time]. With UEFA financial fair play in the hind-sight and the City&#039;s ongoing transition to be among the soccer elites, it is time for them to move on. I support Bobby in this regard 100%. Both Lescott and Kolo have played their parts in City&#039;s rise and have been financially compensated handsomely to the extend that no other club could have matched it. They also have our gratitude as well but the time has come for them to move on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lescott and Kolo Toure are in their 30s and are on wages that are too high for their skill level [this is on top of the incredible transfer fees we paid to sign them which is understandable at the time]. With UEFA financial fair play in the hind-sight and the City&#8217;s ongoing transition to be among the soccer elites, it is time for them to move on. I support Bobby in this regard 100%. Both Lescott and Kolo have played their parts in City&#8217;s rise and have been financially compensated handsomely to the extend that no other club could have matched it. They also have our gratitude as well but the time has come for them to move on.</p>
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